The Bringing Forth of the Image of the Son

                                                                                   Part 2 

Rom. 8:28-29, "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose, For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.".......

We are looking at, in this study, the Image of the Son. That means like Jesus, we must know WHO we are and WHAT we are. We must know, without a doubt, the Truths that Father has been and is showing us. But, KNOWING is not enough. We must BELIEVE the things that we are hearing from Him and we must live it.  There is MUCH in the written Word that tells us about ourselves, IF we focus and meditate and allow Father to show us the hidden things, in His written Word, you will see these hidden Truths.

We were created, Spirit, light beings, if you will.  We were created and ARE EXACTLY as Jesus was, when He was on the Mount Figuration and revealed Himself to His two disciples.

Matt. 17:1-8, "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John is brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart.  And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.  And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.  While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.  And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise and be not afraid. And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man save Jesus only."

In this part of this study, (and maybe in the next part), we will be looking at the Spirit realm, or, the invisible realm. The invisible realm is where those who have passed over, are now. We, like Jesus, must know how to communicate with those in that invisible realm. We see throughout the New Testament, Jesus speaking to those who had passed on. We also saw in the Book of Daniel and the Book of Revelation, that those in that invisible realm ARE BEING MINISTERED TO, AND IT IS THE FIRSTFRUIT THAT ARE AND WILL DO THE MINISTERING TO THOSE IN THE INVISIBLE REALM.  In the above scripture, we see, without a doubt, that not only Jesus spoke to Moses and Elias, BUT THEY TALKED WITH HIM.

I am going to give you some scriptures showing that WE have a ministry to those who have passed on.  Then, we'll get into this study. PLEASE read all these scriptures.

I would suggest that you read all of Chapter 11 of Hebrews. You will see that this is talking about the folks of the OT that had passed on.

Hebrews 11:32-40, "And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samsom, and of Jephthae;  of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:  Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.  Women received theri dead raised to life again; and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:  And others had trail of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:  They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slaind with the sword:  they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; bing destitute, afflicted, tormented; (Of whom the world was not worthy:)  They wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.  And these ALL, having obtained a good report through faith, RECEIVED NOT THE PROMISE;  GOD HAVING PROVIDED SOME BETTER THING FOR US, THAT THEY WITHOUT US SHOULD NOT BE MADE PERFECT."

John 11:41-43, "Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by , I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice,  LAZARUS, COME FORTH."

(there are many more scriptures of the dead being called forth). Now, where was Lazarus? He was dead. Stop and think about it, Lazarus HAD TO HEAR Jesus, in order to come forth when Jesus called him to. Lazarus was in the invisible realm; his body had already started to stink. So, this should tell us CLEARLY, this flesh body IS NOT US, as some teach. We merely travel and are seen in this body. But the real us remains alive, even after we step out of this body.  The dead gets another body when they are called to come forth, JUST AS JESUS DID!!  Ours change. (those who swallow up death.)

Rev. 10:1-4, "And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun,  andhis feet as pillars of fire; and he had in his hand a little book open; and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,  and cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.  And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven...."

Daniel 12:5-7, "Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other towo, the one on this side of the bank of the river , and the other on that side of the bank of the river. (Jordon=death).And one said to the man clothed in linen , which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall havve accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished."

(I suggest that you request my study "Life on Both Sides of the River" to get the meanings of all the symbolic language and to clearly understand what this is all about).  They one clothed in linen are the firstfruits. The two on both sides of the river, are MANY MEMEBERED MEN. One many membered man on this side and the other, a many membered man on the other side of the river. (the river represents Jordan, Jordan represents death.) The one ON THE WATERS is the manifested body of Christ. One like unto the Son of Man. (Rev.1:13)

One thing I do want to say, here. There have been folks who have taught that we are not  to communicate with the dead. They have shown me the story of Saul and Samuel. Saul had made a commandment of his kingdom, that no one was to communicate with the dead. But, that was Saul's commandment.  And as I went into this study, I ask Father about this. It's like He said, "Didn't Jesus do away with death, hell and the grave? So if He did, then WHO IS DEAD?" Father started giving me this study before I left for Florida and He continued, all the way to Florida and back from Florida. You can take what you will, and leave what you will. But, those that Father is showing this same thing to, is a showing that Father is gathering a people who will do the work that the flesh Jesus did, while He walked the earth.

1 Cor 6:14-17, "And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power. KNow ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I them take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saithe he, shall be one flesh. But he that is joined unto the Lord IS ONE SPIRIT."  The harlot is anything that is not Father's Truth. There are two bodies (many membered). One, the harlot. Two, the body of Christ. (many membered.)

Luke 16:13, "No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other: or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."  Are you pleasing man, or are you believing and pleasing Father?

Up until now, many have just experienced Father, in that Spirit realm. But, there are those who have experienced others that are in that invisible realm.  And remember this, just because YOU haven't heard of it or of  those who HAVE experienced that realm, does not mean that it isn't a fact.  I personally know some that HAVE experienced communing with people in the invisible realm. That is: talked to them AND had them talk in return.

Let me say this; I don't mean, some people just think, "oh, I think I'll contact soandso, and talk to them". No, this is not what I mean. These people are folks who KNOW who they are; what they are; and do ONLY what they hear Father tell them to do. REMEMBER THIS: "as a man thinketh in his heart (mind), so is he".  I pray that Father will make you to know the depth of this verse. It is so important, not ONLY to us, here on earth, but to those who have stepped out of their body of flesh and entered into the invisible realm, that they actually began in. It is VITAL to understand that verse.

As we descended to this natural realm, our makeup slowed down, and it is so important to know that so did our thoughts. This is when the Light in our body turned to or geled into the blood that we now know, in our veins. When we descended, we started looking for God, OUTSIDE OF OURSELVES. This was the beginning of the illusional picture that we have held, and many now hold. It is an illusion because we ARE what we've ALWAYS BEEN, Spirit. Because we started looking for God, outside of ourselves, we have been looking for EVERYTHING else, outside of ourselves. But, there is a people who have dropped the illusional thinking. They are seeing things and people as they truely are. Haven't you talked to someone on the phone, or on the internet, and KNOW the SPIRIT of that person, without ever SEEING them in the flesh?  That's experiencing the Spirit realm, the invisible realm. You see not with your eyes, but with your heart, the true person that person is. But then, when you meet that person, face to face, you think, "oh, this person is different than what I expected of the person I talked to without seeing".  That's because you are focusing on the flesh, the illusion of what that person seems to be in the flesh. We do this often, but, we lose our focus; when we meet, we allow our focus to drop from the Spirit, back to the flesh. We experienced the invisible realm, and didn't even know it.

This may sound strange to some, but, to those that Father has spoken this same thing to, they will understand what I am about to say.  On the back from Florida, Father said to me, "I have taught, really, all there is to teach, here on earth. Now, it is time for my firstfruits to learn of the invisible realm. A world of people all around those on earth", and be as much a part of it as they are of this natural world.

When you think about it, He has taught us all we really need to know, about this natural realm. We KNOW, and most preachers will tell us, "those in the Spirit world hear what is being taught and preached, here on earth". And they are hearing. But, like us, they want to ask questions, they want to share with us, things about that realm that they are in. We are their HOPE. (please remember, by WE, I mean those who know who they are, not those who think we are mere man.)

LOVE and PRAY FOR YOUR ENEMIES.

RISE ABOVE THE HARDSHIPS OF THIS WORLD BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PART OF IT.

SEE THE CHRIST IN ALL.

LOOK ONLY TO ME.

KEEP YOUR FOCUS ON ME.

DON'T WANT, TAKE WHAT I GIVE YOU.

DON'T NEED, KNOW I TAKE CARE OF YOU.

KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN.

DON'T ASK MAN, ASK ME FOR TRUTH AND UNDERSTANDING.

HOLD MY VISION.

THINK IN YOUR HEART AS I SAY.

LISTEN TO ME.

 What else do we need to know about this realm of the flesh? Nothing really. We need to learn how to stay our mind on the Spirit, not the flesh. Jesus did that, you know. He walked the earth, with His mind in the heavenlies. So should we.

To start with, I want us to look at the story of Lazarus and the rich man.

Luke 16:19-31, "There was a certain ric man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores. And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to  pass,  that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bossom; the rich man also died, and was buried:  And in Hades he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue: for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.  And beside al this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that theywhich would pass from hence to you cannot: neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to y father's house: For I have five brethrern: that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.  Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.  And he said, Nay, father Abraham; but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, if they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. "

This study is not to prove that there is eternal hell fire for the unjust, although, I do not believe that teaching. Why? Because this parable, itself, shows us differently. This is not what I want to call your attention to. Notice these things:

1) In the natural, the rich man had had the best. Lazarus, the beggar had only the hard things of life.  Notice that the rich man felt it was Lazarus' place to serve him. AND EVEN AFTER DEATH, the rich man had not changed his way of thinking!  This shows us, clearly, that all are not perfected, when they die. They still have a work to be done in them and have learning to learn.

2) Also, upon the death of these two men, one is "carried by thee angels", and one is "buried". Can you see the heavenly and the earthen realm here? One immediately experiences the invisible realm, one is covered with earth.

3) We must see this in the Spirit. One is "being in torments" , and one is "afar off in Abraham's bosom". But, notice, the one in torments can see the heavenly or the higher realm. He had to "lift  up his eyes". Not the natural eyes, but the eyes of the Spirit that is seeded in him, even though he is the bad guy. He must be taught, and He must come to know His Saviour, and he must learn to LOVE. It is obvious that he still considered his brother lower than himself. That must change.

4) He (the rich man) KNEW of God's MERCY!

5) God told the rich man that there was a "gulf" between Lazarus and the rich man. This shows ranks and orders.

6) "the torments" that is spoken of: wouldn't you be in torment to be able to see that higher realm, and not be able to partake of it.?  I don't believe, for one minute, that the torments were anything other than being separated. After all, the rich man had no body to torment, he was in Spirit form. The water that he wanted to cool his tongue couldn't be literal water, he had no tongue to put the water on. (litterally).

7) notice that even if one in that higher realm wanted to go comfort the rich man, it wasn't possible. And those in the realm where the rich man was could not go to the higher realm.  And yet, we are told by Father that ALL will be saved. So, this shows that those STILL have some learning to go through.

8) Not all can teach the rich man. For Father told him, when he ask for the beggar to be sent to his family and warn them so they could repent and not end up where he was at. Father said "let the Moses (the law) and the prophets teach the rest of his family. Why? Because God is no respector of persons, they have the same chance that all men have to learn of God and then to learn to be ONE WITH HIM.  They wil learn here on earth, or, they will learn on the other side.

So, this little bit tells us many things about the other side. They don't burn in hellfire; there are ranks and orders; and the learning goes one. All have a chance to rise.

We will be looking at more about the invisible realm in the next part.