BELIEVING.
I would like to acknowledge some things that been "questioned", in hopes of
explaining some things that were brought to my attention. The remarks in
parenthesis " , came to me from one who does hold the same belief as I do.
"According to my earnest expectation and hope, that I shall not be
put to shame in anything, but that with all boldness, Christ shall even
now, as always, be exalted in my body, whether by life OR BY DEATH. For
to me, to live is Christ, and TO DIE IS GAIN." I wonder if Paul, in the
light of this statement, finally died because he failed to believe that
he didn't have to die?"
I received this statement from one who is not in agreement with my BELIEFS. And
the "not agreeing with me" doesn't bother me in the least. We ALL should be
allowed to "agree to disagree". But folks, being nasty with each other, is not
the answer. We are to LOVE each other, regardless of each other's BELIEFS. And
this is what I want to hold within me, "LOVE FOR THE BRETHREN". I have many
friends that I consider, "family", and although we may disagree with each other,
there is much that we do have in common.
1) We are serving the same God.
2) We are trying to accept what we feel the Spirit is saying to us.
3) We LOVE each other, because without LOVE, it's all a clanging mess.
4) We understand that not ONE PERSON has revelation of all things. (or remembers
the revelation that we already hold within us, because, it IS all within us and
IS being worked out from within us.
Now, regardless of what is believed, about the disciples, it doesn't matter. My
belief is that we have by-passed what was known, or understood, than what was
understood back in the days of the disciples. God didn't choose just 12 men to
give ALL revelation and understanding. He tells us clearly, WHO will give us all
understanding.
John 16:13, "Howbeit when he, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH , is come HE WILL GUIDE YOU
INTO ALL TRUTH: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear,
THAT shall he speak; and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me:
for he shall receive of mine, AND HE shall shew it unto you. "
No, it wasn't just the 12 disciples that we know of, that Father gave revelation
and understanding. Those disciples were men just as we have been. I believe that
in Father's Plan, He had a set time for all things to manifest. That question ,
"did Paul die because he didn't BELIEVE that he didn't have to die?", can be
viewed with different understandings. We all know that throughout the bible, God
showed many things to different people, that was not for that day, but, was to
manifest in this day.
In the book of Daniel, God showed Daniel things and told Daniel that it was not
for him to understand, at that time. Also, there is a people who will FIRST
experience things BEFORE all the body of Christ experiences. So, in answer to
that question, apparently it was NOT time for this manifestation to take place.
Because IF it was, God would have seen to it, that it would have happened.
Jesus had revelation of WHO HE WAS. When He told people Who He was, what
happened? There were those who made fun of Him, called Him names, called false
prophet, and told straight out, by "the RELIGIOUS people of His day" that all
that He said was impossible. Why will it be any different for us? Those men
had they minds made up as to what would and would not take place. And no one
COULD change what they thought. It's the same today. People get it into their
minds that THEY know what and what will not happen and God forbide that anyone
should say differently.
But, just as then, it is the same today that Father WILL being forth "what can't
possibly happen".
Just as the world has brought Father's Word into so many denominations, today,
it's the same with folks who broke away from the church system. NOW, it is THEM
who are dividing Father's glorious Truths into sects: "Kingdom People";
"Finished Work People"; "Universal Salvation People". RE-HAPPENINGS!! Nothing
is new. We are all ONE PEOPLE!! Just because we don't agree or understand what
one is saying, it is divided up, so that THEY won't be a part of one particular
group. Sad. I believe that, today, some are LEARNING while some are
REMEMBERING. IF one doesn't have the same revelation as someone else, so be it.
No big deal. IF one was suppose to know something, Father would see to it that
they do, one way or the other. NONE of us can FORCE our opinions on anyone
else.
I do not believe that some are "weak", because they follow what they think is
truth, as some people say. Can we be deceived? Sure, if we're not listening for
Father's voice. But, that doesn't mean that "a man" can teach us all things.
IMPOSSIBLE.
There is a great difference in everything in the bible, when one believes that
he is "just mortal man", and one who has come to KNOW WHO they really are and
where they came from, and what they are made of. One looks at things in the
bible, through MAN'S eyes and understanding; while another comes to see things
as Father sees it. That does not make one arrogant or grandiose, or superior
over another person.
"Jesus DID NOT die so we wouldn't have to. His is not an
instead-of-death; it's a we-with-Him-Him-with-us" death. It is a
death-of-death-death, whereby death gets swallowed up in victory (Note,
not avoided, swallowed up). It is not a simple substitutionary death, it
is a joint-death. Because we died with Him, were also raised with Him.
He gathered up all death in Himself (and we were in Him when he gathered
up all death in Himself). But obviously God has granted to death, even
though it has been abolished (the Greek word means rendered ineffective
and useless) a season of time to parade about as if it has power before
he demonstrates finally and conclusively that he defeated it at Calvary.
Note that He defeated death, not by believing Himself around it, but by
fully surrendering to it and thereby demonstrating that death has no
final power."
Indeed, death wasn't an" avoided" death, with Jesus. It was a death that ended
all death, for those who believe it. IF Jesus did not die so we wouldn't have
to, then the bible must be incorrect.
Heb 2:9, "But we Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the
suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God
should taste death for every man."
This act, alone, makes every man a different creature, from the one that
resurrected with Him.
Heb 2:14-15, "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood,
he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might
destroy him that had the power of death, that is the devil; and deliver them
who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage."
1 Cor. 15:51, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; we shall not ALL sleep, but we
shall all be changed."
We can look at these scriptures with different revelation. For Jesus "to taste
death for every man", means to me, that He tasted death that I don't have to.
For one thing, I do not look at myself as "man", I look at myself as Father sees
me, "in His image" and as a Spirit Being. And as for death, yes, I did taste
death THE ONE TIME THAT IT WAS APPOINTED TO ME, at the same time that Jesus
died. And I believe that when I resurrected as a NEW CREATURE, it was not a
creature that was the same thing as the one who died. I believe that when Jesus
destroyed "him that had the power of death", the devil, and delivered me from
that BONDAGE, that, that bondage was death.
Also, "that all shall not sleep" means there is a people who will not see death.
But, as I said, MAN is SURE that he has to see death; and I do not think that I
am a man. I am not of the first Adam. I am not of the first man of the earth;
but, the second man that is of (out from within) the Lord from heaven. So, all
can believe what they are led to believe. This is the joy of Father, to believe.
HE will change what we have incorrect.
It is true, that at our resurrection, it was the entire Body of Christ that
resurrected, BUT, our mind can make us believe many different things. It depends
on what mind we are using., the natural mind or the mind of Christ. And when
Father wakes one up to Who and What they really are, it makes all the
difference.
I like what a brother said, "Nothing is a lie because it is a truth to the one
who believes it".
Father has a time for all of us to awaken to Who we are. OPENNESS is what is
needed. As long as we are DEPENDENT on Father, He will not allow anyone to
remain in untruth. Even if it is in the invisible realm, He will have them to
awaken to all truth, if not, why and what is the one "standing with one foot on
the river and one foot on the earth PROCLAIMING"? (see the study on Both Sides
of the River).We must ALL allow Father to be the One who reveal to us the
secrets that have been hidden since the foundation of the world.
It seems that some have misunderstood what I have said, about BELIEVING. It is
not JUST believing that keeps us from death. It is BELIEVING and UNDERSTANDING.
People forget little scriptures like, "as a man thinketh in his heart, so is
he". IF one believes he is just mortal man, then that's what he will be. Being a
mortal man includes seeing death in the flesh body. A SECOND death. Being mortal
is WAITING for death to take you and you go to heaven and THEN you get the mind
of Christ that changes all things. This just is not true, we HAVE the mind of
Christ. We choose which mind we use.
It is NOT just "a believing" that will cause one not to see death. It is a
believing in Father and what He tells us, and the KNOWING of Who we are.
Heb. 11:1,3, "Now faith is the substance of things hope for, the evidence of
things not seen. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the
WORD OF GOD, so that things which are seen were not made of which do appear."
"Faith" means " persuasion. In Webster's Dictionary, this is the definition of
the word "persuasion": The act or the process of persuading or state of being
persuaded. (2) Belief, especially, religious belief. Persuasion is the
substance, the make up of things "hoped" for. "Hope" is an expectation. To
believe or to be persuaded of a thing is useless without and expectation.
Jesus had some things to say about "BELIEVING" :
Mark 9:23, "Jesus said unto him, IF thou canst BELIEVE, all things are possible
to him that believeth. And straightway the father of the child cried out, and
said with tears, Lord, I believe, help thou mine unbelief."
Mark 11:23, "For verily I say unto you, that whosoever shall say unto this
mountain, Be thou removed, and be cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his
heart, but SHALL BELIEVE ; that those things which he saith shall come to
pass;.."
Mt.9:29, "Then touched he their eyes saying, according to your faith be it unto
you"
Luke 8:50, "But when Jesus heard it, he answered him, saying, Fear not: BELIEVE
ONLY, and she shall be made whole."
Let say here, what they were to believe was the power of Jesus AND WHO HE WAS.
John 3:15-16, "That whosoever believeveth in him should not perish, but have
eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."
Rom. 3:3, "FOR WHAT IF SOME DID NOT BELIEVE? SHALL THEIR UNBELIEF MAKE THE FAITH
OF GOD WITHOUT EFFECT:"
So, I would say that BELIEVING in a thing, whatever it might be, is A MUST!! And
on top of that, KNOWING WHO you are, and what is within you, ALL THINGS ARE
POSSIBLE. But, if you are locked into a teaching that you've had in you for
umpteen years, and thinking that you have all there is to know, and not
possessing OPENNESS, no, believing won't do it for anyone.
1John 2:20,27, "But you have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all
things".
Let me ask you, do you believe that you know all things? If you say, no, read
on.
VS 24, "Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning.
If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also
shall CONTINUE in the Son , and in the Father. And this is the promise that he
hath promised us, even eternal life. These things have I written unto you
concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye HAVE received of
(out from within) him abideth in you, and and ye need not that any man teach
you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is
no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."
Now, ask yourself, "in the beginning", where was I? Folks, were we in FATHER.
We KNEW all this "in the beginning". The seducing, is the great deception. And
that deception is the WANTING to TAKE OUT OF US, the Truth!! The Truth of Who we
are; the Truth of what we are: and what we possess BECAUSE WE ARE AND HAVE
ALWAYS BEEN ONE WITH FATHER!! The deception is that we are mortal man. We have
to die. God means for us to die. IF Father had Jesus to die for us, do you
really believe that He intends for us to die AGAIN? Has His appointment for
death ONCE, been changed to die more than once? I don't believe so. We have
been told, that of HIS ANOINTING have we RE-CEIVED, what does that make us? His
Anointed!! Where is all this knowledge that the Holy Spirit will give us? It's
within us. He told us that. So, where does the knowledge come UP from? From
within us. Where is Father? He's within us. Believe this.
"But obviously God has granted to death, even
though it has been abolished (the Greek word means rendered ineffective
and useless) a season of time to parade about as if it has power before
he demonstrates finally and conclusively that he defeated it at Calvary.
Note that He defeated death, not by believing Himself around it, but by
fully surrendering to it and thereby demonstrating that death has no
final power."
Of course God has permitted death, to those who refuse to believe that He tasted
death for us. He won't force LIFE upon us, here on earth, if we're determined to
die. Just as there were those who missed Jesus, because He was not what they had
been taught, and they THOUGHT that He would be, many will miss this too, because
of earlier OR present teachings. There is NO WAITING to see that death was
defeated at Calvary. No, it was not by "believing Himself around it", He
defeated it by BELIEVING what Father said. IF He said that all does not have to
see death, He means just that. And we can take it or leave it. Some will not see
a "second" death and some will. Jesus DID NOT HAVE TO DIE, HE CHOSE TO DIE SO
THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO.
So, I hope that I have explained that, NO, it is not just saying "I believe that
I don't have to die". It is BELIEVING IT AND KNOWING WHO YOU ARE. There are
those who DO believe that it IS robbery to equal with God, but, OUR PATTERN did
not think it to be robbery. We began in Father and that has NEVER CHANGED; just
the THINKING and the TEACHING OF MAN has made us, for a little while, think that
it had changed. I do not say any of this in arrogance or as a grandiose
doctrine. I say only what I feel Father has given me, WITH LOVE.
I believe what Jesus said, sums it all up.
John 3:12, "If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye
believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?"
I suggest that you take your concordance and find every scripture that has the
words, "believe", believing", "belief" in it and read it for yourself. Don't add
to it or take away from it. I guarantee that you will find , especially from the
words that Jesus spoke, that without belief, nothing will be enlightened to you.
Be blessed.
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