WRATH
MANS OR GOD'S
Which do you want or desire?
Do you wish man to reign over you, and if you do you are in big, big trouble.
1SAM.8.5.King James. Make us a king to Judge us like all the other nation.
This is one of the things that brought about a turning point.: Although they knew it not at the time, this was an outright rejection of The God of Israel, which would bring down the wrath of God upon them.
Wrath comes because of rebellion and disobedience, Which they were soon to learn.
Watch what happened, when you choose a man to rule over you. First of all he will take full dominion, and use you to build and establish his kingdom, not God's.
That is why we have all these different kingdoms with the man's name above the door, well I had better not meddle and leave well enough alone. I will say this that man's day is ending and in the days of all these different kingdoms, our God is setting up HIS KINGDOM.
KJ. DAN. 2.44. And in the days of these kings shall the God
of heaven set up a Kingdom which shall never be destroyed;. and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. (in the Greek, to the ages).
Our study is not on kingdoms, so we must move on.
We will say here, that there is a distinct difference between' God's wrath to unbelievers and believers, but this study is to bring to our attention, why God displays wrath to the erring believer or to one who has strayed from the path.
KJ.NU.11.33. And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the LORD was kindled against the people.
Strong's on wrath 639- anger, long suffering,
Strong's on wrath- 599- be angry, displeased.
Webster's on long suffering, long and patient endurance of offense.
Our God was unhappy with their constant murmuring and complaints. There are many words in the dictionary to describe anger, but they do not fit the Nature and character of our God, but they do fit the dark nature of the carnal man, or the beast nature. Well, enough said on that', for we are after the thoughts of
God's in His dealings with wrath handed out to His erring ones. The long suffering of God had reached a point where he had to .... send forth His Judgements unto corrections.
God's wrath is an outflow of His Love in order turn them around.
FROM THE NEW BIBLE DICTIONARY
His wrath, however, even though like His-love it has to be described in human language, is not wayward fitful or spasmodic as human anger always is. It is as permanent and as consistent an element in His [mature as is His love.
God's wrath is always tempered with mercy, particularly in His dealings with His chosen people.
Paul was convinced that one of the main reasons why Israel failed to arrest the moral decline lay in their wrong reaction to the forbearance of God, who so often refrained from punishing them to the extent they deserved. They despised the riches of His goodness and forbearance and long-suffering, and failed to see that it was intended to lead them to repentance. PAUL'S word mentioned here can be found in KJ.ROM.2.4. Or despisest thou the riches of His goodness and forbearance and Longsuffering not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance ?
In the language of today, they gave Him the thumb on the nose expression, and The Creator bore this in longsuffering for some time and finally, His Righteous-.Nature moved Him to correct this rebellion and hardness of heart. Please read verse five and see why the wrath was measured out to them, but only in the measure that was needed to correct them, for our God does not discipline above that 'which is needed.
Again some beautiful input from the Bible dictionary on -
Longsuffering which is a true expression of God's Love.
In the Old Testament the quality of Longsuffering is frequently attributed to God, and represents the restraint of His anger in the face of provocation. Whenever He is described as long-suffering, or as being slow
to anger- (Heb.'erek' 'appayim' ef. KJ.EX.34.6. And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD GOD, merciful and gracious, Longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth.
KJ.NU.14.18. The LORD is Longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgressions.
KJ.PSA.86.15. But Thou 0 LORD, art a GOD full of compassion gracious, Longsuffering, and plenteous in mercy and truth.
Continuing with where we left off, It is almost in variably: in association with His gracious and merciful character towards sinful and rebellious men.
In the New Testament Longsuffering and patience is again attributed to God. If you want NT. Scripture, please turn to your concordance as we have no room here.
The Scriptures on Longsuffering given here are a True picture of the Abounding Grace of our God and Father and all else that God does must measure up to this GRACE Nature.
FROM VINES ON FORBEARANCE
Please keep in mind that forbearance ,s a part of The Grace of God. This forbearance is also a part of the longsuffering and also associated with GOD'S GRACE. ALL of these principles come before wrath, which I say again, are a part of the corrective judgements, to bring an end to rebellion and waywardness and even the Divine wrath is a display of GRACE. Strong's 430- is used in the middle voice in the NT, signifying to bear with, endure, we will also look at bear shortly.
4722- to bear up under, 463- A holding back, akin to A, #1 -denotes forbearance, a delay of punishment, In this case it is dealing with the sinner.
Endure is also used some time in place of forbearance, but we are not looking at this word here.
We are now going back to the Scripture, but we will pick up our word, or theme in the New Testament.
KJ. JOHN.3.36. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: (Life of the Ages) in the Greek. and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; (this only means that they miss out on the Kingdom Age,-and some other Ages, it does not mean they are lost forever and forever as some say.) TO continue, .... but the wrath of God abideth on him. There are some that teach that is to be a permanent state. I shall tell you here and now, that the only thing in this universe that is permanent is that which is Spiritual, for all else shall pass away. We are told in the Scriptures that first comes the natural afterwards that-which is Spiritual.
Let not your heart be troubled my Brethren, if you are in a time that you think is the wrath of-God, be of good courage for I say unto you, this is indeed a time of growth for you ant God our Father means it for good and for your maturity until you learn to receive ALL THINGS from His hands.
Do we not sing the song, HE IS LORD? WE'LL if for you this is present truth, then my Brethren, walk in this truth and let it be your confession, Yea! LORD, thou art He! My Brethren, this is a day we are to have no other gods before us.
There are some that have two at least. One for good and one for evil. This idea of two gods is being removed from the minds of those called to be firstfruits. It already is for some and we are becoming more God conscious as the days go by.
When something happens, we respond, what are you trying to tell me LORD? MEANING ONE SOURCE. I trust this not too heavy for you, and if so hold it before the LORD so that he will confirm it, and if not then lay it on the shelf for now until ?????? To know that God is Sovereign of ALL THINGS that touch your life will bring rivers of peace and a greater love for your God than you ever though possible. My Brethren, our. God and Father is not mad at you, for His Love knows no measure, meaning there is no lack, nor will there ever be. John 3.16 says it all, plus the words of Christ from the cross "It is finished". .In this hour of time, many of the mysteries hidden from past
Ages are now being unveiled to the firstfruits to prepare them for the next Age, the Kingdom Age.
INDIGNATION ? ANGER
KJ.LU.3.7. Then said He to the multitudes that came forth to be baptized of him, "O generation 6f vipers, who has warned you to flee from the wrath to come"
Now from the Concordant Literal NT.
Me said, then, to the throngs going out to be baptized by him, Progeny of vipers! Who intimates to you ~o be fleeing from the impending indignation ? Indignation has the same meaning as anger.
VENGEANCE VINDICATE
DIAGLOTT LU.3.7. Then he said to the crowds coming forth to be immersed by him; O Progeny of Vipers, who admonished you to fly from the APPROACHING VENGEANCE?
We are' getting into some beautiful truths in these words we are sharing, and PLEASE! it, or they, from the unregenerate man, who views from the eye of the Vulture only, they are foolish unto them. From those who are Loving God and seeing by the keen eye of the Eagle, they are a greater expression of His Love. Take notice here dear ones, Every act, every motive that moves God to action, is another expression of His Life is a design to bring about a change in our nature for the better.
Our God is the Source, from which we came, Our God is the Guide, by which we live, Our God is the Goal that we are returning into. WE were marked out before the Ages were framed.
Before going any further, Please! please, The Gospel means Good News, therefore, ALL Scripture has to line up to that Good news, and Please, understand this, that God has no
roasting pit to throw His enemies into, for endless time, is a pack of lies out of the carnal flesh mind of man, that is yet to be changed for ALL shall be changed, for God is not willing for any to perish but that ALL should be brought into Life, life, life. Example of another lie, this is the Age of Grace, and after this Age of Grace they say, there is no more. this could not be further from the Good News. The Lord has Good news for ALL His creation. Underneath is a word of Life for ALL all, for none are excluded. Glory to God in the Highest. AMP.EPH.2.7. He (Christ) did this that He might clearly demonstrate through the ages to come the immeasurable (limitless, surpassing) riches of His free Grace (His unmerited favor) in (His) kindness and goodness of heart toward us in Christ Jesus.
WUEST Translation. In order that He (Christ) might exhibit for His Own glory in the ages that will pile themselves one upon another in continuous succession, the surpassing wealth of His grace in kindness to us in Christ Jesus.
.My Brethren, ALL other Scripture must measure up to the superabounding Grace of God.
C.L.N.T. ROM.5.20,21. Yet Law came in by the way, that the offence
should be increasing. Yet where Sin increases, Grace superexceeds, that, even as sin reigns in death, thus Grace also should be reigning through righteousness, for Life Eonian, through Jesus Christ our Lord.
We needed to input the Beautiful word on Grace, in order to offset this terrible word wrath, which depicts man's wrath, and not our God. we have been gleaning from many translations and will save the best for the last. Many of the words that spring from wrath we see also depicts man's base nature and not our God, for this is that nature that will worship the creation or creature more than God by lowering Him, or bringing Him down to their level to make Him one such as themselves. They at, or in their time, simply did not see from God's point of view, that Me wanted to bring them up to where Me is dwelling. back we Co to another translation..
NEB. LU.3.7. the coming retribution.
I don't think we need to look at this word, most of know, it means, to pay back and it does not do justice to the Divine [nature, so we move on to two very positive translations.
CONTEMPORARY VERSION. Crowds of people came out to be baptized but John said to them, you bunch of snakes! Who warned you to run from the (COMING JUDGEMENT) ?
This is an excellent translation of this verse.
TCNT. version. Who has prompted you to seek refuse from THE COMING JUDGMENT?
God's Judgements are not, and I repeat. damnation and Endless burning in some roasting pit somewhere, someplace.
These are ALL LIES from unsanctified vessels filled with fleshly carnal mindedness, it is just not their time to come into Life as yet, but glory to God, they will come, but every man in his own order. We just shared earlier that in the ages to come that God will manifest His Grace in a much Greater measure, for He is NOW, even NOW, preparing His counterbalance, and this balance is His firstfruit company, who in the ages to come will have a part in the Restoration of ALL THINGS, no exceptions, for the ALL in Adam will become the ALL in Christ.
So my Brethren, there is no such thing as God's wrath. but there is such a thing as DIVINE JUDGEMENTS.
Man's idea of wrath, is this, wham ham you 9re getting what you deserve. As you see no mercy, and certainly no Grace. God's firstfruits are to be His merciful ones, and we will extend that mercy to the ALL, and withdraw not ,from any that need mercy, and there will be no imputing of guilt or wrong doing. Please excuse the colorful adjectives above, but had to get your attention , for it is the first Adam, that man of sin that has the wrathful nature, not God. God's Judgements, are part of His Righteous Nature. His Judgements are ALL remedial
MY JUDGEMENTS (wrath) IS LIGHT.
My, my, what a difference, when we throw out this negative idea of wrath, which after all, is not a true picture of The heart of our Loving God and Father. We shall not get into an in-depth study here, as we only wanted to correct here the misconception of God being mad as all get out, so to speak. ALL that our God is doing with His creation is motivated by His Great Love, as shown in JOHN 3.16, as one example.
God's Wonderful Judgements are for reformation , and are a very outgoing display of His unqualified Divine Love.
God's Love and Judgements, Yes, even so, come LORD Jesus.
God's Judgements are for the purposes to put a bend in our road, if our road is not taking us to the proper designation, then He has to apply His Glorious Judgements ,for this purpose, and this purpose only. My Brethren, Please, I implore you, by the Spirit, when a wrong translation, talks about the WRATH of God, or even some ever so Spiritual person, let The Spirit of God confirm unto you, the True rendering should be, THE JUDGEMENTS of God, an6 in so doing, you will find that you have grown in understanding The Ways of the LORD.
My Brethren, in so doing, you will find a further renewing of the mind has taken place. Let this mind be in you, that was also in Christ Jesus.
Again, my Brethren, PLEASE! His Judgements are not against us but for us, in order to bring us, where ? Why, into a greater manifestation of Life, and for this reason only. I{ill share from one verse, out of a few different translations on God's Judgements being light, or also sent to bring Light, I say this unto you, that when God sends forth His Judgements as light, than the light you already have within, will be increased, for there is no other reason, and His Light is to Crow and keep expanding until that light comes to the Brightness of the noonday sun.
AMP.PSA.37.6. And He will make your uprightness and right standing with God go forth as the light, and your Justice and right as (the shinning sun of ) the noonday.
This is speaking of the believer of course, but it is also speaking of progressiveness of moving on into a greater relationship with thy Maker, a much more intimate fellowship
And please, this is what the Lord is speaking, and if Me says this into your heart, then it is not PRIDE, to confess this to another of like Spirit, but if you hold back, it is fear that is causing it, and please! THIS FEAR IS NOT REVERENCE of the Lord, but that other kind of fear, cringing fear, and fear has torment. Enough said, for this is not said to impute guilt, but to encourage you to hold it before the Lord your God, who does not condemn you, for His Desire is to Draw you closer to Himself. We are going to another verse that fits beautiful here.
KJ.JOB.11.17. And thine age shall be clearer than the noonday; thou shalt shine forth, thou shalt be as the morning.
Before leaving Job, The word (age) is used in a figuratively sense, and has nothing to do with a man's age. The OXFORD BIBLE SAYS IT BETTER. And your life will be brighter than the noonday Also see the JERUSALEM BIBLE. Your life more radiant than the noonday.
By using this word(life,) it sheds more light on this text. To continue with the text,- thou shalt shine forth, From the margin of my Companion Bible, comes more enlightenment. shine forth == soar or shoot upward like rays of the rising sun. the new metrical version gives this,- like the rays of morn. to continue, thou shalt be as the morning.
It seems the Lord wants me to share a little on the morning. it is a noun from 1242 HEB. boger, It indicates the point of time at which night is changing to day or that time at the end of night. In one place God's sons are called son's of the Dawn. In another place they are called son's of Light, take your pick, for they both fit. Vines also states that this Hebrew word, Boger is used as a synonym of Dawn. In other words, this new day that is to Dawn, is God's glorious son or firstfruit coming forth out of the womb of the morning. (corporate son)
KJ.PSA. 110.3. In the beauty of holiness from (out) from the womb of the morning: The word from comes from the Greek (ek) where we arrive at the word (out of).
The coming of the sons of Light are soon to be birthed out of the womb, of their place of concealment. When the fullness of time comes, By this I mean God's appointed time.
Now we have to go back to pate six where we missed out giving the Scripture on God's Judgement for a light. The Lord took us down a little side path, to see something wonderful.
KJ.HOSEA. 6.5. Thy Judgements are as the Light that' goeth forth.
In my margin Companion Bible ......My Judgement is Light...
God's Word translation.....My Judgements shined on you like Light.
FENTON. Translation. My Judgements flashed on you like Light.
There you have some real precious truths as to God's Judgements which are not, hear this, Brethren, they are not wrath and they are not to damn us, but to shed Light on our path to lead us back to Father's House.
VINES 2920 Greek. krisis-from which we get our English word
crisis, denotes a separating, it refers to a turning point, as in a medical term, meaning, he could go one 'way or another.
Therefore, when God's Judgements are in your life, or mine,
they will indeed bring about a krisis or a crisis, but it will brine that about turn that will bring a halt to the corruption brought about by sin which ends in death, and bring about that complete change or metamorphosis that Will lead us into Life, and that more abundantly. So as you see my Brethren, there is nothing to fear in God's Judgements, for they will bring honor glory and praise unto Him for ALL Ages' and beyond the beyond.
My Brethren, as we begin this page, it should now be evident that God's wonderful Judgements are indeed connected with Light, and with this thought, we share a little on the plurality of His Judgements . We will not use the singular word, for the two looked at together would need a study in itself. May the Spirit Himself anoint your eyes with that eye salve of The Holy Spirit. ALL of the operations of God, have one purpose, to bring us into more knowledge of Him, and please! I speak of His Spiritual understanding. HOUSE OF God's operations are.
COLD AND HEAT
FIRE AND WATER
SUFFERING AND DISCIPLINE
JUDGEMENT AND CORRECTION
FLESH AND SPIRIT
Cur God is Sovereign over ALL these operations, and He alone is in total control of the interplay between each, and please, This also means the interplay between good and evil, is in His hands, and ills alone, to believe otherwise, I would urge you to chance your eating habits, from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, to partake of Him Who is The TREE OF LIFE. ALL that is said here, is to encourage you in your walk with God, that He alone, is in full control of ALL that touches your life, and none else. To see this, is a mark of maturity, and there is a company in the earth today, now! who do walk in this understanding. THE LORD REIGNS!
I think we should move on to sharing the Scriptures on the JUDGMENTS, OF God. NOW! if God's Judgements are Righteous, Where pray tell me, is the carnal idea of (wrath)
One more thing for you to consider.. If there is Light in His JUDGEMENTS, THEN THERE IS LIFE! GLORY! GLORY! GLORY!
KJ.PSA. 9b. The Judgements of The LORD are true and Righteous altogether.
My margin for true gives this: faithful in perpetuity.
WAY TRANSLATION, Just Judgements giveth The Judge from on High.
KJ.PSA.119.7. I will praise Thee with uprightness of heart, When I shall have learned Thy Righteous Judgements
The whole verse used here, and it is beautiful, notice! His Judgements can be learned. Think of these Judgements as instructions. WOW!
AMP.PSA. 119.7. I will praise and give thanks to You with uprightness of heart when I learn (by sanctified experiences) Your Righteous Judgements ..
We will look at some other translations for this verse, and you will see how gloriously they point, first of all, to The First Great Cause of ALL causes, God. In the beginning, was the word and The Word was with God, and The Word was God.
now we see in this verse, It was God, First Cause, Who initiated the first move in this relationship in order to bring man back, or turn him if you wish, for man being dead in trespasses and sin could not turn himself, contrary to popular beliefs of our day, or even back further. Even Job, said, Thou shalt call and I will answer Thee. Lie thinks that Job had the beginning of some light. H~ knew that God had to come to him first, than he would answer, and start on the RETURN Journey back to God. In plain English, the dead know nothing.
We see this in God's righteous Judgements. The first cause here, GOD'S RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENTS. Second cause, man responding to THE FIEST CAUSE· what we have is a RE-CONCILATION. By the way it was not God who was estranged, but we were. The Judgements were to soothe us and entreat us and woo us with His expression of love shown through His Judgements. Man will learn obedience through no other way, than by His Judgements.
A change of mind and nature took place here, but not until the First Cause initiated a process to bring this about. these next sharings are from the 26 translations bible.
PSA. 119.7. RHM. I will thank You with uprightness of heart when I have learned Thy righteous regulations.
HAR. I will thank You with a sincere heart when I learn your equitable laws..
NEB. I ;;ill praise Thee in sincerity of heart as I learn Thy just decrees.
TAY. After You have corrected me I will thank You by living as I should.
KJ.PSA.119.62. AT midnight I will rise to give thanks unto Thee, Because of Thy righteous Judgments.
JERUSALEM TRANSLATION, I get up at midnight to thank You for the righteousness of Your Ruling.
KJ.PSA. 119.156. Great are Thy Tender Mercies, O LORD: Quicken me according to Thy Judgments.
Quicken me, Give me Life, or keep me alive..
The concordant New Testament, uses the word Vivifying in ROM.8
RHM. translation, According to Thy regulations 9ire me Life.
RSV.Give me Life according to Thy justice.
Quicken, Greek- 222~, To make Alive, ( it is Spiritual Life.)
In this last wind-up we are going straight to-the book of Revelation. In this study, we were learning, that God's Judgments and not His so called wrath, are an outflow of Divine Love, in order to correct us, prune us, Refine us by His fiery Love, and not to destroy us. In pruning, He cuts off all the dead wood, so more Life can be produced. Does it hurt ? Yes it does, but OH! the beautiful fruit that is produced for His Glory. The fire, OH! NO! This process will produce much more of His wonderful nature and Character within us. Who shall abide the fire. Only the Christ Life within, for nothing else will abide the fire. I must share a beautiful song here be BOB and CHARLOTTE TORANGO of Dickson, T:N. U.S.A. -
OUT OF THE FIRE, a voice did speak. .
It made me tremble and it made me weak
But a work has begun and soon I know He'll dive,
Power and authority, that we may live! Out of the fire,
I felt a quake, It made my earth to crumble and my heavens shake,
But a new word is forming for all men to hear,
Each man in his own order, the time is near
Out of the fire, I shall be made whole,
Established in a sure place, a real true gold,
My book He is writing so that all may see,
That out of the fire, I will set men free.
KJ.REV.15.4b, For all nations shall come and worship before Thee for Thy Judgements are made manifest.
KJ.PSA. 67.4.0 let the nations be glad and sin9 for joy: For Thou sha!t judge the people righteously .
KJ.REV.16.7. And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, LORD God Almighty, true and righteous are Thy Judgments.
So, my Brethren, because of space we must bring this sharing to a close. It has been a joy sharing precious truths which are life to me, and other Brethren elsewhere and now I trust with you also. The LORD Alone, He is Goo and not another. The entrance of His Ward gives Light.
LATE FLASH THIS scripture is a capstone of ALL the others.
KJ.ISA.51.4. Hearken unto Me, My people; and give. ear unto Me, 0 My nation: for a law shall proceed from Me, and I WILL make My Judgment to rest for a light of the people
ASV... For a law shall go forth from Me, and I WILL establish ~MY Justice for a light of the people.
What else can be added, this last Word is the most beautiful of all. His JUDGEMENTS ARE LIFE AND LIGHT. Amen and Amen ....
Victor P. Allen
GOD'S PLAN FOR THE AGES
12-1986 Glenidle
Sooke BC VOS1ND